Leadership & Diplomacy in an Age of
Turbulence and Transformation

Well I mean the neat thing about what we do is the work is not terribly different, so I am in the manufacturing space it doesn't matter if I am a hospital or if I work at the Library of Congress the threats to any organization are the same type of typical threats that we all have to deal with. By getting together in opportunities like this and have sharing time for example we are a fairly sizable organization so it is really interesting to learn from younger less mature companies because they might not have the budget and they have to come up with really creative ways to solve the same problems I do and its neat to say wow you didn't have the budget and you solved the problem the same problem I just threw a hundred thousand dollars at to solve. I love the creativity and I love to hear about the innovation other security folks are dealing with and the technology.